HR not responding to my e-mails after an interview.. And it's been 3 weeks since the interview.

OpsDude:

Don't email HR again. One more, and you run the risk of it being held against you if they haven't decided yet.

I second this.

Most likely waitlisted. If you got rejected you would probably know by now. At the same time, don't email HR again. Assume you didn't get it and move on, you don't want to sit around not pursuing other opportunities just to find out you didn't get it.

First of all, don't ever put any faith in what HR tells you. In my experience, it's extremely rare to hear back exactly by the "by when" date. That being said, it has been a week since they said they would contact you so I would shoot them an email saying that you are still interested in the position and if they need anything else from you.

Thanks very much!

What about in terms of a super day, I asked an HR guy when I should expect to hear anything and he said about a week or so, maybe. It'll be a week tomorrow since the SD, should I email them or wait till Thursday or Friday.

I would wait until tomorrow to call/email given that they said "a week or so". Superday decisions are generally made pretty quickly.

:( sorry rdev, it's such a tough process. stay positive!

It's probably a dead end at this point. Have you tried reaching back out to the MD again?

Send the MD another email. Only three possibilities can happen - 1) He misses your email or ignores your email. 2) He steps up the process with HR and you either a) get an interview b)not get an interview. Low risk, high return.

Wow...I'm a BB intern in 2023 and just reading your post...I'm so shocked by how dynamic and friendly BB's culture was 10 years ago...

Waitlisted or dinged. Just gotta wait it out unfortunately.

Keep in mind the larger/more established the firm the more structured the process - I'd give them a larger grace period the smaller the firm. But still waitlisted or dinged.

most likely dinged, move on to next opportunity

HR is a correspondent for the group that you are interviewing for. HR are people too and don't always have the time for a courtesy ding email.

most likely dinged, move on to next opportunity

HR is a correspondent for the group that you are interviewing for. HR are people too and don't always have the time for a courtesy ding email.

Was your real intention to tell us this important story or let us know you got a BB offer?

They're like this even from the inside - one I knew turned her phone off and stopped answering emails because she was too busy!

BBand, are they really that bad..

They're perpetually busy with something but what I can't tell....

When I was an intern looking for a full time job they were of absolutely no help - so I contacted head of desks directly to be told that this was a violation of HR policy and might result in my being deemed an unsuitable candidate. Then I go through interviews, including HR, to be offered a job but HR have to interview me again (because they're likely to veto one of the global heads right?) so I come back from holiday early to fit in with their schedule only to be told, oh we've already met you haven't we? welcome to the bank!! arghhhhhhh

More recently I needed a letter confirming I worked at the bank to get a tourist visa - a simple letter xxxx works at xxxx, I even offered to type it up myself, but no it's against policy, it has to go through the chain of command and we aim to do it in 2/3 weeks.

Which is why my boss signed the letter...... I'm sure I'll get into trouble for that somehow

hey, you are going to bear right? i'm having problems with their unreliable hr dept too!!

Oh man... this is totally standard for HR.

When I joined my firm, they typed in a digit wrong in my social security number... and they incorrectly recorded my gender as male. I noticed and pointed out the problem during my first two weeks of work, certain that it would lead to trouble down the line. They replied that they'd fix it, but in the meantime not to worry because it didn't affect anything.

Right. Here's what it affected:

My pay (and signing bonus) was being reported (and taxed) under a different SS number... thus a different identity. My 401(k) contributions belonged to a different SS number... thus a different identity. My life insurance belonged to a different SS number (it actually still does), so if I die it won't pay out. My long-term disability insurance belonged to a different SS number, so if I got disabled it wouldn't pay out. My health insurance and pre-paid health costs belonged to a different SS number, which caused all kinds of problems. My SS number was my PIN for all the HR systems, so for a short while I could not view, change, or access my personal data or benefits. My credit report considered me unemployed with zero income because my job was being reported under a different SS number. My SS number was also my PIN for entering the gym (stupid, right?), so I couldn't work out. My gender was listed as male, so even if I could get healthcare providers to accept my insurance card (with the one-digit difference in SS number), they rejected all my girl-related health expenses on the grounds that no man would need them... which flagged my account for health insurance fraud.

Now here's the kicker... it took them SEVEN MONTHS to fix it. I had to hassle everybody every week. Sometimes multiple times a week. I waited on hold for many, many hours, fighting my way through those damned automated phone systems. Everybody said they couldn't fix it. Nobody took responsibility. Everybody directed me to somebody else. I started off quiet and polite, but after nobody responded I eventually started flooding four separate offices around the world with faxes of my passport and birth certificate, begging, pleading, threatening, joking, cajoling.

Because of a rampant culture of incompetence, it took seven months to get my identity back.

A friend got 'the call', hired as a trader at a bank, she lover the culture etc and cancelled her other interviews and final rounds.

A few months later the contract never arrived and HR denied all knowlege of her....

Actually you will find the true title of HR is Human Waste. The approach stated above is true across all industries.

It's also where they stick reject managers so you can't even hope the further up you go the better they get. This may change at executive level.

Nah I was reading an article recently about this saying senior HR are coming mainly from front office at other banks. As if you'd really give up such a role if you had a choice...

They probably missed it. I have never heard of offers getting pulled after a signed contract short of failure to graduate, criminal convictions, failed drug tests, or firm bankruptcy.

Give them a call monday or tuesday.

Don't worry man, I know that feel, but it turns out fine

Thanks for your responses

Illini, you mention calling the HR contact early next week. I agree that it's best to eventually get in contact, but I was thinking waiting until May in case I hear something in the meantime, especially since my original question wasn't terribly urgent. I wouldn't want to "hassle" them or anything- do you think calling as early as next week would annoy them?

Happens all the time. HR is swamped this time of year. Don't sweat it, follow up a week later.

Same thing happened with me for SA, I just called them up and asked the questions over the phone. It turned out that the HR person wasn't getting my emails at all because of a filter or something. She apologized and removed that filter from my email. So just send the email once more and if you don't hear back within 2 days, call them.

Yes, I did, be patient but nag them a little bit like you're doing. They may be waiting for the team to be available - it may be a problem on their end and not HR's.

bulge,

how did it work out for you- get an offer? how did you go about following up with them to see their decision?

I did get an offer. Immediately after your interivew, email everyone you spoke to thanking them, reiterating interest, etc. Also make each email slightly different and add something about enjoying talking about... so that they won't compare emails, find out they're the same, and laugh. I waited a week and a half and contacted the MD and HR again (contacted HR at the end of the week). HR said they were still deciding, MD said "someone will be reaching out to you in the coming days." Finally HR said they wanted to schedule additional phone interviews with the junior people in the group. Did that, and the next day the MD called me at night and offered me the job. He told me that they dropped the ball and that they should have had me meet with more junior people there and that they were deciding whether to fly me back out, have me phone in, etc, and that they had to find a day that worked with everyone else in the group to talk to me. So it may just be logistics.

Thanks for the advice. I really hope to hear back a little sooner than that. I can imagine a week and a half feeling like an eternity, but that's obviously out of my control and it seemed to have worked out well for you.

Not sure how long ago you landed your gig but congrats!

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Just curious, is it normal for HR to ignore people? I've heard that sometimes they can be uh... not so good with these things.

I wouldn't worry about it too much. HR isn't perfect; you'd be surprised how inefficiently some processes are still carried out. But anyways, they'll get around to it, but chances are, they're busy doing other things that they totally forgot to respond to your inquiry re: housing.

In any case, I would just look for housing on my own if I were you. Did the bank say specifically that they were accommodating for housing? I know some banks don't provide anything, or they just give you a list of places you can check out.

My one tip to any incoming analysts, SA or FT, is to avoid dealing with these HR bitches like the plague. They can't help you, they can only fuck you. My experience has been that no matter how friendly you think you are with them (even after fucking one of them), they still will not give you any useful information and will give you the runaround. Banks purposely hire incompetent good looking girls for low level "recruiting" positions for this purpose. If you look further up the ranks, you will find very competent people that are either men or nasty former banker chicks.

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lmao...

this is really common. Just call them... works like a charm

umm...C

"I wanna Thank the Good Lord for Making me a Capitalist"

CAll!

call that slut, and proceed to give her a strawberry shortcake.