Cornell MBA - S&T recruiting? Ithaca experiences?

considering applying to johnson as a safety. looks like they have a pretty good emphasis on S&T/IM in the program, with the $13M AUM hedge fund and such. Their web page says they're recruited by all the BB firms, but you can only trust their web page so much. anyone have exp?

finance club testimonial - http://forum.johnson.cornell.edu/students/orgs/ez…

also, for anyone from the ny region or that went to cornell ug/mba, how was your ithaca experience?

thanks

 

They don’t “suck.” 680 GMAT is probably the 89th percentile. 710 (avg for top 5) is 92.

People always make uninformed comments about MBA programs. Maybe it sucks for PE, but it seems like a solid (not great) finance program.

 
TomNext:
considering applying to johnson as a safety. looks like they have a pretty good emphasis on S&T/IM in the program, with the $13M AUM hedge fund and such. Their web page says they're recruited by all the BB firms, but you can only trust their web page so much. anyone have exp?

finance club testimonial - http://forum.johnson.cornell.edu/students/orgs/ezra/testimonials.html

also, for anyone from the ny region or that went to cornell ug/mba, how was your ithaca experience?

thanks

yea great offend the people who would actually respond to this thread, that works

seems like they still get recruited by BB for IB/IM/S&T. weird.

gotta say, the change in reporting salary as yearly to reporting salary as weekly from '08 to '09, respectively, is pretty suspect, heh

you seriously cannot be that stupid...

 
excelsior:
TomNext:
considering applying to johnson as a safety.

yea great offend the people who would actually respond to this thread, that works

i didn't mean to denigrate johnson. it looks like a great program and i would be happy to attend. i consider it a safety because i really do not want to live in ithaca. i also do not want to live in chicago or boston, and as such any school not in nyc is, in my circumstance, a safety.

 

You do realize that 680 GMAT while not a superstar score is a very good score.

For all of you that have not taken the GMAT think of this when you start comparing your wonderful SAT % ranking to the GMAT:

MUCH FEWER people take the GMAT. And most people that take the GMAT have already done well as an undergraduate and strongly believe they have a chance at business school (which is why they shell out $250 for an exam). So it is harder be in the 90th % in the GMAT than it is in the SAT.

Also, business school is A LOT more than you GPA, heck the GMAT probably matters more than the GPA. Business experience plays a huge role into whether or not you are accepted into business school. Essays also play a much larger role than they did as an undergraduate.

Stanford has probably the highest GMAT avg in the country and it is still only around 720-730.

I would never count Cornell as a safety school, in this economy all top 20 schools are a crapshoot.

 
theATL:
You do realize that 680 GMAT while not a superstar score is a very good score.

For all of you that have not taken the GMAT think of this when you start comparing your wonderful SAT % ranking to the GMAT:

MUCH FEWER people take the GMAT. And most people that take the GMAT have already done well as an undergraduate and strongly believe they have a chance at business school (which is why they shell out $250 for an exam). So it is harder be in the 90th % in the GMAT than it is in the SAT.

Also, business school is A LOT more than you GPA, heck the GMAT probably matters more than the GPA. Business experience plays a huge role into whether or not you are accepted into business school. Essays also play a much larger role than they did as an undergraduate.

Stanford has probably the highest GMAT avg in the country and it is still only around 720-730.

I would never count Cornell as a safety school, in this economy all top 20 schools are a crapshoot.

It's a safety.

For me it’s a safety. As a CFA, I see no value added unless I go to a big time program. I'm aiming for top 10. I wouldn't consider a school outside the top 20. As a 3.8/710 guy with solid exp, I would put Cornell in the "strong safety" category. ATL - you make a good point, though. For most people, Cornell is an excellent option.

 

For most people who have worked on Wall Street, or at a top consulting firm, or a solid F500, Cornell will be a definite safety.

You have to look beyond the average GMAT and GPA stuff. For example: Yale has a higher average GMAT than Chicago, MIT, and Kellogg. However, indisuptably, the latter 3 have higher caliber students than Yale.

UC Berkeley has a higher average GPA than Wharton, but indisputably, Wharton has higher quality students.

Class profiles and academic stats are a small part of the equation. Having quality work experience and a stacked resume is much more unique and harder to achieve than a good GMAT score. It is also a better correlation of where you'll go in your career and where you'll get a job post-MBA. The GMAT only predicts success in your first year of your MBA... once you cross a certain threshhold it does not matter anymore.

If you are interested in seeing whether a school is a safety, target, or stretch -- simply go look at the actual student profiles. Go browse around their Facebook groups for the Johnson School Class of 2011, Chicago Booth Class of 2011, or the Wharton MBA Class of 2011, and google those kids. You'll see the difference very quickly.

 
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This is an old thread but I thought I'd leave some relevant info. I saw their list of full-time offers and summer internships. Okay S&T numbers from BoA-ML, DB, Citi, BNP Paribas, GS, HSBC and Nomura. Possibly BarCap. I remember MS was a conspicuous absence. No b-school sports huge numbers in S&T but for the size of its program and its rank, Cornell did well.

The truth is you're the weak. And I'm the tyranny of evil men. But I'm tryin', Ringo. I'm tryin' real hard to be the shepherd.
 

jaschen27, Johnson probably doesn't give you much in terms of bragging rights, but if you want a banking job, it's a good enough platform. Check the subscores for reputation in USNews and it's about the same as Yale SOM/NYU Stern.

Shorttheworld, I saw it as a printout, not on a website. There were around 1-3, in some cases 4-5 per bank. I think JPM was absent too, so was CS. I definitely remember BNP, BoAML, DB, Citi and some Goldman. The others, my accuracy may have faltered.

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jtbbdxbnycmad:
jaschen27, Johnson probably doesn't give you much in terms of bragging rights, but if you want a banking job, it's a good enough platform. Check the subscores for reputation in USNews and it's about the same as Yale SOM/NYU Stern.

Shorttheworld, I saw it as a printout, not on a website. There were around 1-3, in some cases 4-5 per bank. I think JPM was absent too, so was CS. I definitely remember BNP, BoAML, DB, Citi and some Goldman. The others, my accuracy may have faltered.

Sorry if my original post was at all unclear. I agree that despite its lower ranking/admissions criteria, it places pretty solidly.

 

I just replied to your other thread - good to see you picked Cornell, congrats! My year (2015) was split about 1/3 in the Fairview apartments, 1/3 Collegetown Terrace apartments, and 1/3 randomly scattered elsewhere. The 2016 class was more like 1/2 Collegetown Terrace with even distributions between Fairview and elsewhere. I was in Fairview and I'd go to Collegetown Terrace if I were doing it over again. It's in a fairly central location (walking distance) between campus and the commons (where most of the stuff in Ithaca is), they have a shuttle for the cold mornings, and most of the class will be right close by.

As far as stuff to do, Ithaca is pretty small so you'll get a handle on it real quick. A quick browsing of yelp couldn't hurt, but you'll find that most of the class will tend to hang out in like 1 of 3 bars on any given night. I suggest bringing a car if you have one, and if you get there early spend some time exploring the upstate NY countryside because it's beautiful in the summer.

 

I think around 7 McK and 5 Bain. A senior partner at Bain is an alumnus, so there is some effort there. 0 from BCG.

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